Artega gegen Lotus Evora

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von marta » Mi 12. Aug 2009, 18:21

ich habe es ja geschrieben, "der Fisch stinkt vom Kopf" ich hoffe Du weisst was ich meine.....

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von Hubbs » Mi 12. Aug 2009, 18:32

marta hat geschrieben:ach ja, fast hätte ichs vergessen: vergiss nie, " der Fisch stinkt ja bekanntlich immer vom Kopf" somit müssen die Händler nur ausbaden, was der Kopf nicht kann.......

Hi Marta,

wie oben schon geschrieben geb ich ja primär nicht M&P die Schuld. Die sind von Artega gesteuert und können auch nichts dafür. Auto König konnte ja auch nicht mehr sagen als daß ihnen in 2 wöchigen Abständen ein Vorführwagen versprochen wurde. Und ein schweizer Händler hatte wohl einen roten Vorführwagen, laut Artega war der aber nicht für Probefahrten zugelassen, daher hab ich da gar nicht mehr angerufen und direkt in Delbrück eine Probefahrt vereinbart. Was draus geworden ist kann man ja nachlesen und ich will das hier nicht aufwärmen, ist ja eh schon mehr als zum Abwinken hier behandelt worden. Was ich hier ankreide ist der Umgang mit dem Kunden. Hier fehlt es einfach an Ehrlichkeit. Warum verspricht man ständig Dinge die man nicht einhalten kann. Ich hätte sicher auch noch ein paar Wochen oder bis nächstes Jahr gewartet, man hätte mir ja nur sagen müssen, daß man noch nicht soweit ist, anstatt ständig leere Versprechungen zu machen und in der Presse so großspurig zu tun und den Eindruck zu erwecken, daß man schnell bestellen müßte um noch vor 2011 einen zu bekommen. Probleme also hausgemacht.


was mich jetzt noch interessieren würde wäre welche Konsquenzen DU, Martha denn gezogen hast. Bist du denn auch ein enttäuschter Interessent, oder gar Kunde?

Hubbs

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von ajzahn » Mi 12. Aug 2009, 19:39

vielleicht zurück zu den Autos?

der Lotus Evora ist eine echte Alternative zum Artega GT, aktuell wurde er zum "best-handling car of the year" nominiert, fährt sich angeblich besser als der so überragende Nissan GT-R

Lotus positioniert den Evora auf Top Niveau, ein Niveau, wo Artega sicherlich auch hin möchte

ich kann die ersten, objektiven, unabhänigen und qualifzierten Tests des Artega GT kaum erwarten,
würde ihn nach wie vor selbst mal gerne fahren, um einen zeitnahen Vergleich zum Farbio GTS ziehen zu können.

ürbgens: ich werde nächste Woche die Möglichkeit haben, den Wiesmann MF5 und MF4 S im direkten Vergleich fahren zu können. :)

ajzahn

Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von ajzahn » Mi 2. Sep 2009, 13:53

First Evora is Delivered to Customer

Matthew Melling of Twickenham, UK received the keys of a Storm Titanium Lotus Evora from Luke Bennett, Director of Lotus Cars Limited at the Lotus Headquarters where the new mid-engined 2+2 sportscar is hand built.
Many Lotus dealers around the world have already received their demonstrators and Lotus has, so far, received orders for the next 5 months of production. Demand for Lotus’ award winning Evora has meant that 150 extra new manufacturing staff have been recruited to support assembly operations in Norfolk, UK, a very positive sign at a time when the global motor industry faces huge challenges. Full production is expected to reach the maximum rate by the end of November 2009.

Luke Bennett, Director of Lotus Cars Limited said, “It is quite an emotional time to deliver the first Lotus Evora to Mr. Melling. The whole team has worked incredibly hard to design, engineer and produce such a stunning and high performing sportscar and it is a great feeling to hand over the keys to the first customer today. The Evora has won many awards around the world already so we are not surprised that there is high demand for the car and I am sure that each customer who receives their car will be delighted with their purchase.”

Matthew Melling, a customer of Stratton Motor Company, in Norfolk said, “I was determined to be the first in the world to get my hands on an Evora so with Stratton Motor Company’s help, I laid down my deposit within seconds of the order books being opened last year. I have read all the press reviews of the Evora and am so excited about getting behind the wheel – what a great start to September!”

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von ajzahn » Fr 18. Sep 2009, 07:06

Lotus Evora - IAA in Frankfurt:

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von ajzahn » Sa 17. Okt 2009, 08:13

Evora Wins Car Magazine's Coveted Performance Car of the Year

The Lotus Evora beat strong competition from 29 other cars to win the title of Performance Car of the Year 2009. The prominent competition included cars from some of the greatest Marques in the world such as Lamborghini, Ferrari, Porsche and Aston Martin.

The 2009 Performance Car of the Year comprised 30 cars, and included exhaustive subjective and objective testing. The feature incorporated testing on some of the greatest driving roads in Britain, with objective testing at the Rockingham Motor Speedway, where Darren Turner, a Le Mans winning racer, put the cars through their paces.

Chris Chilton, Assistant Editor at Car Magazine was so taken with the Lotus Evora during the first drive activity in Scotland that he said he would eat his Apple Mac if the Evora didn't win this year’s Performance Car of the Year.

In saving his Apple Mac, Chris commented, "There are executive saloons that don't ride this well, supercars that don't turn in so crisply, and surely no car on the planet steers like this". To further safeguard his constitution, Chris added, "Lotus has managed to transfer everything that we love about the Elise to a bigger, more refined, more grown up platform...It couldn’t really be much better to drive - the Evora is nigh-on perfect. A winner on every conceivable level".

Roger Becker, Vehicle Engineering Director said that "It is very rewarding to win the well established Car Magazine, Performance Car of the Year award against such tough competition. I am personally very pleased that Chris Chilton so accurately informs on the character and performance that we set out to achieve in the Evora: They are all you would expect from a modern everyday Lotus. The Evora is a great ownership proposition, offering the great Lotus driving experience in a very comfortable, practical, refined and efficient package.”

He added “It is a great validation of the expertise at Lotus to win this title against incredible competition from such a highly regarded publication and very pleasing to continue Lotus’ outstanding record in this competition".

Lotus Evora: 205 g/km CO2
32.5 mpg (8.7 litres / 100 km) - Combined Cycle
22.8 mpg (12.4 litres / 100 km) - Urban Cycle
43.5 mpg (6.5 litres / 100 km) - Extra Urban Cycle

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von ajzahn » Di 22. Dez 2009, 07:21

Artega GT vs. Lotus Evora - das Fernduell

ein Verglech der Messwerte aus der auto,motor und sport (oben) and der sport auto (unten):

Motor:
3,5 Liter V6, 300 PS bei 6.600/min
3,5 Liter V6; 280 PS bei 6,400/min
350 Nm bei 2.400/min
350 Nm bei 4.700/min
83,4 PS/l
81,0 PS/l

Grundpreis:
79,950 EUR
59,990 EUR

Verbrauch/Durchschnitt:
8,9 l/100km
14,3 l/100km

Gewicht (voll getankt):
1.303 kg, 4,34 PS/kg
1.404 kg, 5,0 PS/kg

Gewichtsverteilung:
v 42,5%, h 57,5 %
v 38,6% h 61,4 %

Bereifung:
Michelin Pilot Sport, 235/35 R19 vorn, 305/30 R 19 hinten
Pirelli P Zero, 225/40 R 18 vorn, 255/35 R 18 hinten

Fahrleistungen:
0-100 km/h
4,4 s
5,6 s

0-160 km/h
10,5 s
12,7 s

0-200 km/h
18,1 s
21,2 s

18 m Slalom:
68,9 km/h
69,2 km/h

Bremstest 100-0 km/h warm:
33,0 m
33,2 m

Vmax:
273 km/h
262 km/h

der Artega GT schlägt den Lotus Evora in fast allen Disziplinen ausser beim Preis und beim Leistungsgewicht. Das der Artega GT dennoch deutlich besser beschleunigt als der Lotus Evora liegt an den unterschiedlichen Getriebeabstimmungen:

1. 2,93 2. 1,96 3. 1,40 4. 1,08 5. 1,03 6. 0,87 Achse: 4,80
1. 3,54 2. 1,91 3. 1,22 4. 0,86 5. 0,79 6. 0,64 Achse: 3,78

Der Arteeg GT ist deutlich kürzer übersetzt als der Lotus Evora. Die unterschiedlichen Antriebsaggregate aus der Großserie, beim Artega GT von Volkswagen und beim Lotus Evora von Toyota, lassen lassen deutliche Unterschiede beim Verbrauch erkennen, die VolkswagenTechnik mit DSG scheint der Kombinnation des Toyota-Motors mit mechansichen 6.Gang Getreibe deutlcih überlege zu sein, kürze Schaltzyklen und Schaltne unter Last erklären auch die besseren Beschleunigungswerte.

Das Gesamtkonzept Artega GT geht voll auf, Klassenziel erreicht und einen direkten Gegner im Fernduell ausgeschaltet (vergisst man mal den Preis)

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von Patrick » Di 22. Dez 2009, 11:04

Der Evora soll eine ziemlich hakelige Schaltung haben, leider gibt es getriebeseitig noch keine Alternative.

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von ajzahn » Do 14. Jan 2010, 04:47

Lotus Evora Cup

Lotus Motorsport announces the Evora Cup race car together with an innovative European points based race series for 2010. The race car will make its first public appearance at the Autosport International racing car show in Birmingham, UK on the 14th January 2010.

The Lotus Evora is a highly acclaimed road car that incorporates many race car elements to give it incredible handling and performance. The Evora has a mid-engine layout, high-tech, super-stiff extruded and bonded aluminium chassis and double wishbone suspension all round. These elements mean that it is a relatively easy progression from the production car to a competitive race car.

The Evora Cup race car has been developed by Lotus Motorsport and is designed to offer a level of performance that would make it competitive in GT4 racing. The race car will be eligible to compete in a number of different national and international series, with options for endurance racing and sprint racing.
The Evora Cup show car is finished in Epsom Green with a Solar Yellow stripe down the centre. It is an evocative sports car that will offer a great platform to race in high level motor sport. At the heart of the Evora Cup race car is a new 4 litre V6 race engine that boasts more than 400 PS and a dry sump system for the high cornering forces encountered during racing. The mid mounted engine is mated to a Cima six speed sequential paddle shift dog gearbox, which is designed for international motor sport.

The efficient Evora body has received a Dallara developed aero package, which includes a number of updated carbon fibre parts and significantly improves performance for racing applications, giving greater downforce and improved cooling.

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Re: Artega gegen Lotus Evora

Beitrag von ajzahn » Fr 12. Feb 2010, 07:37

Jarno Trulli develops his first Lotus race car

F1 Racing driver Jarno Trulli assists in the development of the Lotus Evora Cup race car during its first test session at Snetterton.

The Lotus Evora Cup race car is the latest addition to the Lotus Motorsport racing stable. Fresh from its debut at the Autosport International racing car show in Birmingham the Evora Cup race car was given its first shake-down test at a wintery Snetterton circuit in Norfolk, UK on the 10th and 11th of February 2010.
Lotus Motorsport is conducting an extensive development program for the Evora Cup race car, with Jarno Trulli and his Race Engineer, Gianluca Pisanello bringing their vast racing, development and engineering experience to fine tune the latest Lotus mid-engined race car.
Jarno Trulli and Gianluca Pisanello provided specific input into the aerodynamic balance for slow, medium and fast corners, guidance on the racing setup of the suspension geometry and direction on the engine’s calibration.

After driving the Lotus Evora Cup for the first time, Jarno Trulli said, "I have enjoyed driving the road going Lotus Evora very much and I believe that the Evora Cup will be a very competitive race car package. It was very rewarding to be the first to drive the Evora Cup race car even though the snowy conditions at Snetterton were fairly challenging at times!"

Jarno continued, "The car will continue to be developed with new updates coming soon, but even after the initial drive it is obvious that the car has huge potential. I look forward to working with Lotus Motorsport in developing the car further and I know that my years of motorsport experience will help make the Evora Cup race car even better."

Claudio Berro, Director of Motorsport at Group Lotus plc stated, “It is a privilege to work on the development of the Evora Cup race car with such an experienced driver and engineering team as Jarno Trulli and Gianluca Pisanello and I believe that this collaboration will produce a great race car for a range of motorsport applications. It is a very exciting time for Lotus and I am honoured to be leading the motorsport programmes at Lotus, starting with the Lotus Evora Cup racing car and race series.

Gianluca Pisanello, Race Engineer for Jarno Trulli said, “I am impressed with the whole Evora Cup race car package, which demonstrates that the road going Lotus Evora is such a competent sports car in the first place and an excellent basis to develop a competitive race car.”

In the past a number of Lotus F1 drivers have successfully raced or assisted in the development of Lotus Cars including F1 World Champions Jim Clark and Nigel Mansell. Jim Clark was a great exponent of the three wheel drift in his Lotus Cortina, campaigning the Lotus to win the British Touring Car Championship in 1964. Whilst Nigel Mansell raced for Lotus he was involved in the development of the prototype Active Suspension Lotus Esprit.

The Evora Cup race car is an evocative sports car that will offer a great platform to race in high level motor sport. The GT4 race car will go on sale starting at £120,000 excluding taxes for the sprint racing version, with the endurance specification race car £150,000 excluding taxes.

The final design, aero’ package and techincal specifications will be presented at the Geneva Motorshow in March 2010.

For more information please check out http://www.lotusevoracup.com

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